Spurs fielding trade calls for Parker

Spurs fielding trade calls for Parker

Postby Blondie on Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:55 pm

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NEW YORK – The San Antonio Spurs are engaged in discussions about trading point guard Tony Parker(notes) to secure a high pick in Thursday’s draft, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

The Spurs have talked to teams in the lottery, including the Toronto Raptors and Sacramento Kings, who hold the fifth and seventh picks, respectively. The Kings are determined to get a frontline point guard, and have also talked with the Denver Nuggets about Raymond Felton(notes).

It’s unclear who the Spurs would prefer to take if they acquired a high lottery pick.

If the Spurs were to trade Parker, George Hill(notes) could become their starting point guard. League sources said Hill also has drawn trade interest from teams willing to give the Spurs a pick near the back end of the lottery.

Parker didn’t play well early in the Spurs’ first-round loss to the eighth-seeded Memphis Grizzlies in May then later told French reporters he thought the franchise’s days of contending for a title had all but ended.
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Re: Spurs fielding trade calls for Parker

Postby 1kangaroo on Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:26 pm

I so hope we make a trade it will be Tony for a pick and a player no way it will be just a pick

If it is Sacramento How about Tony + our pick for Garcia and their Pick

If they want we can throw in Blair/Bonner/Jefferson if they want

With Anderson playing well before he broke his foot and was part of the normal rotation before that happened it be great Manu/Anderson SG

Jefferson/Garcia SF Garcia allows us to trade Jefferson for some other backups
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Re: Spurs fielding trade calls for Parker

Postby gameFACE on Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:18 pm

If Tony is traded the Spurs it's because the Spurs have decided to go into rebuild mode and Duncan will be retiring. There is no way a new PG can come in here and make an immediate impact unless it's of the CP3 or D-Will class. And thinking some high draft pick will make the Spurs a championship contender is laughable at best.
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Re: Spurs fielding trade calls for Parker

Postby 1kangaroo on Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:25 pm

Of course not but this team has to start rebuilding and building around Tony is a lose lose situation. He is not good enough to build around. Plus Tony as I said last year is irrelevant in us winning or losing in the playoffs. he just is not that big of a factor
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Re: Spurs fielding trade calls for Parker

Postby gameFACE on Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:01 am

Well that was my point. If he's traded then it's about rebuilding now rather than winning a championship. And I don't agree at all that Tony doesn't have an impact in the playoffs. If a bad elbow puts a cog in the Spurs chances wait until you remove one of the big three. The trauma will be too much for Pop's system. It's not forgiving. On the one hand it's brought four championships. On the other, when one thing doesn't click it really falls apart.
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Re: Spurs fielding trade calls for Parker

Postby Rita on Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:37 am

If TP leaves it better be for a high caliber PG because Hill is not capable of being the main PG. I've never liked his role in the PG position. This isn't meant to take away from Hill's talent, but he's better when he's on the wing and running off screens. Other than TP, Manu is the only one I trust in the PG position but that takes WAY too much away from his game. We need Manu more as a slasher, that's where he's at his best.

Trading TP for just a high draft pick? Nope. I don't like that one bit. I understand the need to build for the future, but it should be a gradual process.

If anything we need a solid big man to offset TD in the paint, but we can't sacrifice the PG position for that to happen either.

Guess we'll just have to see how this plays out.
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Re: Spurs fielding trade calls for Parker

Postby Dripping Spurs Fan on Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:24 pm

Parker + Bonner for pick #5 and Andrea Bargnani

Parker + Bonner for pick #7 and Tyreke Evans or maybe Parker for pick #7 and Dalembert

Garcia!? Why in the world we want Garcia? There is no upgrade for us there.

Parker for a pick and nothing else -- ridiculous idea.

Hill as our starting PG? I agree with Rita; bad idea.
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Re: Spurs fielding trade calls for Parker

Postby Blondie on Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:46 pm

Parker for a pick and nothing else -- ridiculous idea.


I agree that is my worst fear as it always happened wiht Scola :frown:
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Re: Spurs fielding trade calls for Parker

Postby Dripping Spurs Fan on Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:11 pm

The Spurs are reportedly trying to move up in Thursday's draft in order to get Washington State SG Klay Thompson.
And now that this news is hopping all over the internet, assuming it's not a smokescreen, it's safe to say that Thompson's stock has gone up across the board. If we know one thing, it's that the Spurs rarely make mistakes on draft night.
Source: Mark Heislery on Twitter
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FORGET 'RUMORED,' MYSTERY MAN SPURS WANT TO TRADE UP FOR IS DEFINITELY KLAY THOMPSON... Due in NY yesterday, detoured to SA to meet Pop, RC


A shooting guard? That's a surprise. Smokescreen is a definite possibility.


Klay Thompson
Strengths: One of the top pure shooters on the college level ... Prolific outside shooter with a defined role for the NBA level ... Right hander who at 6'6 with long arms has good size for the NBA 2-guard position ... Shows an excellent feel having been around the game his entire life. Understands his limitations and plays within his game well ... Plays well off the ball. Stays active. Works hard to create scoring opportunities. Understands how to create shots for himself off the ball coming off screens ... Very good spot up shooter ... Comfortable handling the ball and can use the dribble to create shots ... Can use his left hand effectively ... Shows an advanced in between game with tear drops and the use of the glass ... Effectively uses pump fakes to draw defenders off balance ... Has perfect form on his shot and deep range. Squares to the basket. Quick, concise, fluid stroke with a high release ... Gets his shot off quickly and can do so without needing much space ... Exhibits prudent shot selection ... Large wingspan allows him to play more athletic than he appears. Can dunk on his defenders if he catches opponents napping ... Solid decision maker with a positive a/to ratio ... 1.6 steals per game as a senior showed his progression as a defender / anticipation ... Extremely level headed, doesn't show a great deal of emotion or get rattled easily ...

Weaknesses: An average athlete who plays below the rim ... He's a "momentum athlete" in the sense that he shows solid athleticism when he has momentum moving towards the rim ... Much better in the half court than in the open floor. His lack of elite athleticism gets exposed in the transition game ... Lacks great foot speed which inhibits his ability to take the ball off the dribble against quick defenders ... Recevied a one game suspension due to a marijuana possession charge, but scouts don't seem too concerned about that therefore it hasn't affected his stock much ... Long, athletic defenders can give him trouble ...

Notes: Was among the top 10 scorers in the nation as a junior at 22.1 ppg ... He's the son of former #1 overall pick Mychal Thompson (1978) ... Put up 43 points at Washington knocking down eight 3 point shots ...
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Re: Spurs fielding trade calls for Parker

Postby 1kangaroo on Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:22 pm

Dripping Spurs Fan wrote:Parker + Bonner for pick #5 and Andrea Bargnani

Parker + Bonner for pick #7 and Tyreke Evans or maybe Parker for pick #7 and Dalembert

Garcia!? Why in the world we want Garcia? There is no upgrade for us there.

Parker for a pick and nothing else -- ridiculous idea.

Hill as our starting PG? I agree with Rita; bad idea.


Dalembert contract is up I pretty sure it was. No way they will give us evans and the pick I was hoping to get Garcia and unload Jefferson or Bonner to clear salary. If they did not want Jefferson too then the Spurs they could unload Jefferson for a bag od peanuts and we still be better off since Garcia is cheaper and we have similar production and maybe better in the playoffs.Sometimes it is about getting salary cap room which allows the spurs flexibility yin FA

Then the next question if we are looking t a SG then is the plan for Anderson to play SF he play well before his foot injury ?
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Re: Spurs fielding trade calls for Parker

Postby Dripping Spurs Fan on Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:16 am

Hey Toby!

While the Spurs deny it, comments from other teams make it look like Tony Parker is being shopped around like he is on QVC.

How serious those talks are is the question.

In the case of a Hoopsworld report, things got very close with the Portland Trail Blazers.

The San Antonio Spurs and Portland Trail Blazers nearly completed a blockbuster trade on Wednesday afternoon, but the deal fell apart in the late stages. San Antonio was prepared to ship Tony Parker and the #29 pick to Portland in exchange for Andre Miller, Nicolas Batum and the #21 pick, but the trade died when the Spurs insisted that Richard Jefferson somehow be included in the deal. Other players would have been included in the trade to make salaries work. Talks have quieted for now, but they could pick back up tomorrow if one of the teams has a change of heart.

While Hoopsworld says these talks are serious, other reports have the Spurs much more in the “gauging interest” phase.

Richard Jefferson is a key to a lot of the Parker trade discussions. Clearly the Spurs want to be rid of his contract ($30 million for three more seasons), but a lot of teams are balking at taking on that kind of contract heading into an unknown new Collective Bargaining Agreement. The Spurs are seeing if anyone wants Parker badly enough to take Jefferson, too.

Parker and Jefferson are still rumored to be part of a deal for the No. 7 pick with Sacramento. Before that there was a Toronto rumor. In the hours running up to the draft expect more rumors. The Spurs can afford to shop Parker around because they have George Hill, who can very capably take over duties at the point for the Spurs. Of course, there are rumors the Spurs are shopping Hill, too…
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/23/report-tony-parker-to-the-trail-blazers-being-discussed

Spurs deny shopping Tony Parker. Of course they do.

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Jun 22, 2011, 4:44 PM EDT

And now we bring you the story that we all knew was coming today like we knew the sun would rise in the East and that Wednesday would be national chocolate éclair day. (What, you didn’t know about that?)

The San Antonio Spurs have denied they are shopping Tony Parker around.

This is required to be said, even as GMs pick up their cell phone calls to pitch a trade for that very player. It’s part of the trade dance. But here is the official report from the Express-News Spurs Blog.

“We’re not shopping anyone,” (Spurs GM R.C.) Buford said, via text message. “We’ve received calls on a lot of our guys and we’ve answered the phone….

But even in the same post, the Spurs writer shows that they are talking about a Parker trade.

An executive of a team not involved in the discussions said he had no knowledge that the Spurs were seeking deals for Parker, but confirmed the belief they were “gauging the interest” of teams that called about him.

A basketball executive of another team said the Spurs were unwilling to discuss trading Parker to the Raptors unless they agreed to also consider taking small forward Richard Jefferson.

That may be the real motive here (and likely the poison pill for any deal). Jefferson is due three years, $30.4 million left and the Spurs would love to get out from under that deal. Parker for a lottery pick never made a ton of sense to me because they could do better than that in this down draft year, but if they could shed Jefferson’s salary, too, things might look different.

Bottom line, don’t expect Parker to be moved, but don’t buy they are not talking trade, either.
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/22/spurs-deny-shopping-tony-parker-of-course-they-do/
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Re: Spurs fielding trade calls for Parker

Postby ryno on Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:10 pm

Let me be the first to welcome Kemba Walker to the Spurs.
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Postby txstr1986 on Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:57 pm

TrueHoop is saying that the Spurs are trying to trade up for Jonas Valanciunas, a 6-11 center out of Lithuania.
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/30611/latest-buzz-picks-nos-8-11-the-trade-zone
What's the hottest place to be right now in the NBA draft? It appears to be the mid-lottery.

The Pistons, Bobcats, Bucks and Warriors are getting flooded with calls from teams looking to move into that range.

Among the teams that have made calls? The Rockets (who are offering picks Nos. 14 and 23), the Pacers (No. 15 and Brandon Rush), the Knicks (No. 17 and Toney Douglas) and the Spurs (George Hill).

Sources say the Rockets and Spurs are interested in Jonas Valanciunas if he ends up sliding. The Spurs also are eying Washington State's Klay Thompson, according to sources. The Knicks are looking at both Thompson and Jimmer Fredette with that pick. For the Pacers, it's Fredette.

The bigger question is, will any of them make a deal?

The Pistons are seriously considering the Rockets' offer -- especially if Kawhi Leonard and Tristan Thompson are off the board. The target at No. 14?
Markieff Morris. Morris wowed the Pistons in a big workout Tuesday, and they feel he could still be on the board there.

The Bobcats are in the most interesting situation. They are trying to package picks Nos. 9 and 19 to move up a few spots to get a shot at drafting Leonard. However, if Leonard is off the board, the Bobcats might be inclined to do a deal with Houston or San Antonio.

I don't think the Bucks or Warriors are inclined to do the Spurs trade, as Hill doesn't hold a huge appeal for either team. The Rockets trade might hold some interest, but not until certain players are off the board. Both the Bucks and Warriors have interest in Valanciunas if he falls, and both teams also are fans of Thompson.


Info on Valanciunas
NBA Comparison: Spencer Hawes/Primoz Brezic
Strengths: Lithuanian bigman with great size and rebounding instincts ... Has a long 6'11" frame and a huge wingspan to go along with it ... Very fluid athlete ... Runs the court well for a center ... Good quickness and solid explosiveness/leaping ability ... Strength/weight has been improving, and he should continue to add more in the future ... Uses all of his physical skills to the fullest when attacking the glass ... Extremely aggressive rebounder both offensively and defensively ... Gets a lot of tip-ins and put-backs ... Shows a good understanding of boxing out, which is somewhat rare for young players ... Uses great length to either grab or tip out-of-area rebounds to teammates ... Solid shot blocker with the potential to be very good in this area ... Competes hard on defense ... Length allows him to contest entry passes ... Super active on both ends of the court ... In the paint he shows a variety of developing moves ... Has a nice jump-shot from 8-12 feet away from the hoop ... Has great shooting mechanics and an extraordinarily soft touch for a bigman ... Has a developing hook shot that could be deadly in time ... Often used in pick and roll situations ... Favorite move is to "slip" after setting up for a pick, and cut to the rim ... Keeps the ball high and away from any secondary defenders ... Incredibly efficient (shot 70.8% from the field in the Euroleague) ... Doesn't miss a lot of shots because he operates so close to the rim ... If he doesn't have a high-percentage shot he immediately passes the ball out ... Remarkable free-throw shooter (88.5%) ... Tough player that's not afraid of contact ... Just turned 19 and has a great deal of potential ... Has a lot of enthusiasm for the game, and eager to improve. Unlike a lot of bigmen that were pushed into the game of basketball, it's obvious he has a genuine love for the game ...

Weaknesses: Can't create his own offense yet ... Has a budding set of skills in the post, but needs teammates who can set him up ... No real perimeter game ... Almost all offense comes from around the hoop ... Very unselfish but not a talented passer ... Makes a lot of mistakes when trying to pass out of double teams ... Plays very aggressively, which is a good quality, but it gets him in foul trouble quickly ... Needs to learn how to play good defense without fouling ... Hasn't developed the habit of remaining stationary when setting screens ... Struggles guarding stronger players ... Still skinny, though he is showing progress in this area ... Is currently signed with Lietuvos Rytas and the buyout option in his contract is over $3 million dollars, so he may not see the NBA for a few seasons ... Very wet behind the ears.

Overall: European scouts are unanimously high on this kid, many feel that he desrves to be a top 5 pick ... Valanciunas' combination of size, skill and motor gives him a high amount of intrigue ... He isn't a finished product, so whatever team drafts him will have to be patient ... Has a buyout in the range of 3 million which could dissuade some teams from selecting him ... The lockout comes at a perfect time for him as he can continue to develop for another year overseas ... Appeared "overwhelmed by the situation" according to scouts while doing interviews in Treviso ...
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Re: Spurs fielding trade calls for Parker

Postby Dripping Spurs Fan on Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:25 pm

ryno wrote:Let me be the first to welcome Kemba Walker to the Spurs.
I thought this was a pretty good guess. But alas, 'twas not to be.
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Re: Spurs fielding trade calls for Parker

Postby libri on Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:50 pm

ryno wrote:Let me be the first to welcome Kemba Walker to the Spurs.


I hope you didn't make a bet on this. :lol:
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