2008 Spurs' Draft Breakdown

2008 Spurs' Draft Breakdown

Postby KyleO on Wed May 21, 2008 10:59 am

Hello, new to ClubSpurs. I'm a draft freak, so I thought I'd get a thread going for the rapidly approaching 2008 Draft. Here's an evaluation of next year's current roster, positional breakdowns, and draft possibilities I did earlier at another site. Constructive criticism is always appreciated:

2008/09 Current Roster


PG: Tony Parker, Jacque Vaughn
SG: Manu Ginobili, Brent Barry*
SF: Bruce Bowen, Ime Udoka
PF: Tim Duncan, Matt Bonner
C: Fabricio Oberto, Ian Mahinmi
Total Salary: ~$57,221,368
*According to ESPN, Barry has a player option.

Expiring Contracts: Kurt Thomas ($8,091,187), Robert Horry ($3,630,000), Michael Finley ($3,103,000), Damon Stoudamire ($609,795), Derrmarr Johnson ($42,872)

Draft picks currently overseas:
Robertas Javtokas (C), Sergei Karaulov (C), Viktor Sanikidze (SF), Tiago Splitter (C)

Positional Analysis

PG: With Tony Parker's durability issues this season, it's rapidly apparent the Spurs need a young, steady back-up PG. Jacque Vaughn is nearing the end of his career, and has been less effective defensively. Though Darius Washington was signed earlier in the season after failed back-up Beno Udrih was traded to Minnesota, he requested his release in order to pursue a larger European paycheck. This is a position the Spurs will likely address in free agency, and it would not surprise me if they look overseas for a less turnover-prone option than Washington proved to be.

SG: Clearly, the Spurs need youth on the wing. Ginobili will play in the off-season, and his minutes next year will be carefully monitored. Brent Barry may end up retiring, but if he does return, he will be little more than a spot-up 3-point shooter. With the departure of Michael Finley probable, there are a few first and second round options in the draft that should shore up this need and provide limited minutes off the bench if necessary.

SF: Bowen's decline as a limited offensive weapon has been balanced by emergence of Ime Udoka, who played well in his first year. While not quite the defensive stopper, Udoka has more offensive potential and rebounds surprisingly well. As Bowen winds down his career, I see an extension in Udoka's future. Viktor Sanikidze should be brought over for Summer League again, where he impressed in limited minutes last year, but I don't see him making the roster. There are draft options available here, but, as related by alpineballer, I see one major target on the free agent market - James Jones. He provides an incredible outside threat that should effectively spread the floor.

PF/C: While his numbers are down, Duncan shows little sign of declining, and his playoff numbers back this up. Robert Horry is likely to retire, leaving Matt Bonner on the depth chart. Bonner is probably trade bait soon, but I also believe he played well near the end up the year and may still prove an asset. At Center, Oberto is his same, steady self. Ian Mahinmi will likely be brought up from the Toros for some experimental minutes early to see if he is ready. Also, 2007 draft pick Tiago Splitter will relocate to SA, possibly finding more minutes on the main roster than Mahinmi. Spurs will need a vet presence to balance this new youth, and hopefully Kurt Thomas re-signs.

Draft Picks:

#26 - Rush is the obvious solution to the wing dilemma, a swingman with a smooth stroke and good defensive prowess. As he will likely also be off the board, Chalmers makes an intriguing solution at back-up PG, a fantastic outside shooter who can shut down opposing guards. Lee is an excellent safety choice at SG. If Omri Casspi does not drop out, I could certainly see the Spurs selecting him in this slot and leaving him overseas for the time being. Dark horse candidates include Kyle Weaver, Davon Jefferson, or J.R. Giddens, depending on their workouts (this will seem like a reach to most).

#47 - Difficult to predict who drops at this juncture. Could be a draft and stash slot. Goran Dragic, while not immediate PG relief, is an intriguing prospect who could pay dividends later. Even if his contract procludes playing in the NBA for a few years, Pekovic is too good to pass over if he's available. Joe Ingles is a lanky SF prospect who should continue to grow. Some domestic products to consider could be Pat Calathes, the aforementioned J.R. Giddens, or Shan Foster.

#57: I thoroughly expect this pick to be traded for a future second, as per the Spurs' usual policy. Some domestic selections I would like as projects to play with the Austin Toros: Keith Brumbaugh, James Gist, Malik Hairston, or Patrick Ewing, Jr. Again, this will not happen, but I can dream.

Possible Free Agency Targets:
Kurt Thomas, James Jones, Chris Duhon, Aaron Miles, Vassilis Spanoulis, Matt Barnes, Mickael Pietrus, Bostjan Nachbar, Maurice Evans, Roger Mason, Walter Herrmann
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Postby Blondie on Wed May 21, 2008 3:46 pm

Thanks for the post adn welcome :wave:
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Postby ryno on Sat May 31, 2008 3:49 am

Welcome Kyle, nice breakdown.

I agree Brandon Rush seems like he would fit in perfectly for the Spurs. Unfortunately, as you stated he is likely to go before the Spurs selection at 26. Nbadraft.net has his going at 25 but I think it is unlikely he will even slip that far. Draftexpress, has him going just outside of the lottery at 15 to the Suns for their pick they got in the Joe Johnson deal. Its really too bad the Spurs don't have any trade assets to give up to move up in the draft to take him.

I also like the Chalmers idea. I watched a lot of Kansas ball this year and picked them to win the tournament, despite always hating the Jayhawks they had an impressive team last year to say the least. The attitudes of Chalmers and Rush both fit in with the Spurs philosophy as well. Jacque Vaughn may be back next year but I would like to see him paired with a steady young point backing Tony up.

I haven't seen Lee play too much but from what I read he seems to be a scorer, at least at the college level. Can he contribute in the NBA?

I have had my eye on Gordon Dragic Slovenian as well. A left handed point guard with size that likes to score in the paint. Sounds like someone Pop could appreciate.

I agree with your thougts on #57 the Spurs will trade it for a future second rounder. I got all excited two years ago when I predicted that the Spurs would draft Damir Markota. As you probably know that excitement didn't last too long as he was quickly traded to the Bucks.

I noticed VSpan was on your free agent list. Do you think he will ever play in the NBA again after his experience with Van Gundy and the Rockets?
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Postby libri on Sat May 31, 2008 5:41 pm

Here is a nice dunk by Courtney Lee.



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Postby SVballer on Sat May 31, 2008 8:21 pm

Trade a pick & player and get Corey Maggette.
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Postby Blondie on Sat May 31, 2008 9:21 pm

SVballer wrote:Trade a pick & player and get Corey Maggette.


that would rock but I don't know if SPurs could pull it off......
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Postby KyleO on Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:08 am

ryno wrote:Welcome Kyle, nice breakdown.

I agree Brandon Rush seems like he would fit in perfectly for the Spurs. Unfortunately, as you stated he is likely to go before the Spurs selection at 26. Nbadraft.net has his going at 25 but I think it is unlikely he will even slip that far. Draftexpress, has him going just outside of the lottery at 15 to the Suns for their pick they got in the Joe Johnson deal. Its really too bad the Spurs don't have any trade assets to give up to move up in the draft to take him.

I also like the Chalmers idea. I watched a lot of Kansas ball this year and picked them to win the tournament, despite always hating the Jayhawks they had an impressive team last year to say the least. The attitudes of Chalmers and Rush both fit in with the Spurs philosophy as well. Jacque Vaughn may be back next year but I would like to see him paired with a steady young point backing Tony up.

I haven't seen Lee play too much but from what I read he seems to be a scorer, at least at the college level. Can he contribute in the NBA?

I have had my eye on Gordon Dragic Slovenian as well. A left handed point guard with size that likes to score in the paint. Sounds like someone Pop could appreciate.

I agree with your thougts on #57 the Spurs will trade it for a future second rounder. I got all excited two years ago when I predicted that the Spurs would draft Damir Markota. As you probably know that excitement didn't last too long as he was quickly traded to the Bucks.

I noticed VSpan was on your free agent list. Do you think he will ever play in the NBA again after his experience with Van Gundy and the Rockets?

Thanks, some answers to your questions and other comments:

-Courtney Lee is actually better suited to be a role player, and I think (along with many scouts) that he could be an NBA-ready SG. He had to take his mid-major team on his back, but his first instinct is to work within the system and play to his strengths as a shooter rather than dominating the ball. That said, he did play some PG his sophomore year, so he's not just your typical hoist it up there college SG. He's versatile, intelligent, has some defensive potential, and didn't back down agaist LeBron in his Skills Challenge last year.

-Yes, I think V-Span would be amenable to playing in the NBA under the right coach and situation. Things have not gone well this year in Greece for him. Last year, Tony Parker purportedly met with him to discuss playing for the Spurs, so clearly there is interest from the front office, along with a rumored "handshake deal" that he would get bought out for nothing but consider returning. Also, Adelman is highly respected overseas, so I wouldn't be surprised if he went to play for the Rockets considering their PG problems (no, seriously).

-Another note - it's unclear whether Tiago Splitter will re-sign at Spain in the moment or come to the Spurs. Reports had him signing a two-year deal with Tau, while his agent says Tiago will decide after the Spanish League Finals. That will decidedly impact the Spurs' draft, as they were counting on him as a young frontcourt addition. If he does opt to say in Europe, the Spurs could look at Roy Hibbert and Robin Lopez if they drop in the first, while Devon Hardin and Richard Hendrix could be stretches at that pick. Trent Plaisted could drop to 45, and has the skill-set the Spurs covet.
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Postby jezzyman05 on Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:05 pm

I must say I really hate situation that Tiago put the Spurs in -- Messed up, but hey that's business, anyhow I really like Courtney Lee, this kid has lot of potential to come into our system and be a solid player, he has got a nice jump shot, good ball handling and scoring ability. Shoots well off the dribble or spotting up. Mature decision maker, unselfish player who rarely forces bad shots. I really like his defensive game I believe he avg (1.8 spg),
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Postby manufan10 on Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:16 pm

espn's chad ford has the spurs taking Mario Chalmers with the 26th pick.

Position: PG
Height: 6-2
Weight: 170
Age: 22
School: Kansas

The skinny: We've had an international player here in the last two mock drafts, but after the Spurs lost Luis Scola and might lose Tiago Splitter because of money issues, they may finally go in a different direction.

The team has needed a solid backup point guard, and Mario Chalmers has all the qualities the Spurs look for in a player -- toughness, defense and a winning pedigree.

Season Averages
YR GMS MIN PTS REB AST TO A/T STL BLK PF FG% FT% 3P% PPS
2007-08 39 30.0 12.8 3.1 4.3 1.9 2.3/1 2.5 0.6 2.5 .516 .746 .468 1.57
2006-07 38 29.2 12.2 3.0 3.3 2.4 1.4/1 2.6 0.4 2.5 .491 .770 .404 1.43
2005-06 33 26.0 11.5 2.2 3.8 2.8 1.4/1 2.7 0.2 2.3 .445 .788 .375 1.39
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Postby manufan10 on Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:21 pm

another site says:

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Serge Ibaka
Ht/Wt: 6-10/220 lbs
Position: PF
Drafted From:CB L'Hospitalet
Class:International


Comparisons:
Best Case: Tyrus Thomas
Worst Case: Maceo Baston

Strengths:

• Freakish athleticism
• Frame
• Wingspan
• Shot-blocking potential
• Lateral quickness
• Finishing ability
• Tenacity/Motor
• Perimeter shooting skills
• Range out to 3-point line
• Producing at fairly high European level
• Upside

Weaknesses:

• Experience
• Back to the basket skills
• Decision making
• Basketball IQ
• Fundamentals
• Team defense
• Ball-handling skills
• Passing ability
• Work in progress

Bday: 09/18/1989
(18 Years Old)

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Serge-Ibaka-1302/

has some more details.
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Postby SVballer on Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:23 pm

The Spurs need to stop drafting all these foreign players and actually get some american players. And if we draft a young player with a lot of potential, let him play and see what he got. BUt drafting players and sending them overseas is just stupid and no point in doing it.
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Postby manufan10 on Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:26 pm

Strengths:

• Smooth body control
• Strength
• Versatile
• Perfect role player
• Basketball IQ
• Perimeter shooting
• Pull-up jumper
• Mid-range game
• Free throw shooting
• Fundamentals
• Passing ability
• Unselfishness/Team play
• Perimeter defense
• Ability to get in passing lanes
• Timing
• Mature
• Patient
• Doesn’t force issue

Weaknesses:

• Level of competition
• Explosiveness
• Slashing game
• Ball-handling skills
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Postby manufan10 on Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:29 pm

26. San Antonio Spurs Darrell Arthur 6′9″ Power Forward Kansas - San Antonio Coach Greg Popovich deserves praise for the tremendous mileage he gets out of the Spurs power forward position. Sure it helps that NBA all-time great Tim Duncan mans the middle, but the tri-headed four-slot consisted of the aging but effective Robert Horry, trade addition Kurt Thomas and a lanky Fabricio Oberto. Readers, don’t get it tangled, Duncan is designated a forward on paper only to escape the ballot stuffing power of fellow Western Conference center Yao Ming during All-Star voting. Anyway, Arthur has the championship background the Spurs organization elites prefer. Arthur has an exorbitance of post play skills that can continue the excellence of the Spurs’ NBA dominance.

Darrell Arthur - Current Team: Kansas, Sophomore
Physicals:
H: 6' 9"
W: 215 lbs
Bday: 11/10/1987
(20 Years Old)

Comparisons:
Best Case: Antonio McDyess
Worst Case: Josh Powell

Strengths:

• Athleticism
• Scoring mentality
• Hands
• Ability to score in the paint
• Transition play/Running the floor
• Turnaround jumper
• Budding skills facing the basket
• Excellent lateral quickness
• Solid all-around defender
• Upside

Weaknesses:

• Toughness/Intensity
• Basketball IQ/Experience
• Consistent focus
• Passing ability
• Ability to finish with left hand
• Shot-selection
• Ball-handling/Perimeter shooting polish
• Finishing strong/Not fading away
• Strength
• Consistency
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Postby manufan10 on Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:34 pm

ok i'm confused. i've been rummaging around through sites to see some mock drafts and then looking at the player profiles. some sites have us picking 26th and others 27th. which one is accurate?
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Postby ryno on Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:36 am

The Spurs have the 26th selection in the upcoming draft. Boston, Detroit, LA Lakers (pick goes to Grizlies for Pau Gasol), and New Orleanes all had better records.
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